the presidential election is very important in this lead up, particularly since the fumble with obama care. the republicans may see an opening and may be a reason for them to try to get some things done. >> so, i mean, you talk about the farm bill. do they have a long way away on how much they want to trim from that? democrats want to trim 4 billion, represent can't want to trim 40 billion. this is from the food stamps department. yes, they're talking, which is a good thing. there's still a lot of distance. >> well, there's distance on the food stamp program and that's always the case. democrats, remember, those are more -- those are perceived to be more democratic constituents so they will want to do less, particularly in a mid-term election. i think you can get there, come together middle of the road, split the baby. this farm bill is important to republicans. that shows that the republicans are showing a lot more flexibility. they need a win more than the democrats need a win in this mid-term election particularly because they see that they may have the president and the democrats